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File: EarthRadiusRefined ''' <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" ''' href="/rss.xml" title="RSS Feed"> ********> width="25%" |>> ''' <a title="Subscribe to my feed" ''' rel="alternate" ''' href="https://www.solipsys.co.uk/rss.xml"> ''' <img style="border-width: 0px;" ''' src="https://www.feedburner.com/fb/images/pub/feed-icon32x32.png" ''' align="middle" ''' alt="" />Subscribe!</a> _ ''' <a href="https://twitter.com/ColinTheMathmo"> ''' <img src="https://www.solipsys.co.uk/new/images/TwitterButton.png" ''' title="By: TwitterButtons.net" ''' width="212" height="69" ''' alt="@ColinTheMathmo" ''' /></a> <<| ---- My latest posts can be found here: * ColinsBlog ---- Previous blog posts: * VolumeOfASphere * BigOhAndRelations * MathematicalRelations * IntroducingBigOh * ConstantDifferences * AlgorithmsAndSizesOfInstances * IntroducingTimeComplexity * TheLinearFrog * SeventyVersusOneHundredRevisited * HowTheFarragoWorks * SeventyVersusOneHundred * PowersOfTwoInLexOrder * EmergingEExpanded * RageInducingSystemImplementation * TheBookIsNotAlwaysRight * EmergingE * ImpossibleToTranslate * WaitingInVain * NonRepeatingDecimals * RationalRepeats * WhyIsItLovely * CompilingCryptoConnections * ExploringConnectionsBetweenCryptoSystems * ElwynBerlekampHasLeftUs * RootCauseAnalysisAndThePhotocopierQuestion * TheUpDownTides * TheForeAftTide * TheSidewaysTide * WrappingUpWrappingUpTheEarth * TheOtherWrappingTheEarthProblem * WrappingTheEarth * TheRingOfSteel * RoundingUpTheRopes * OtherOtherOtherRopeAroundTheEarth * RopeAroundTheEarthRefined * TheOtherRopeAroundTheEarth * ElementaryEstimates * LatitudeCorrection * JustGiveMeTheAnswer * MoreMusingOnPollardRho * IdleThoughtsAboutPollardRho * WhenOptimisingCodeMeasure * ADogCalledMixture * AnotherPayPalScam * WhyTopPostingHasWon * UnexpectedInteractionOfFeatures * ArchimedesHatBoxTheorem * ConsideringASphere * ToLinkOrNotToLink * GenericAdviceForWritingAThesis * JustTeachMyChildTheMaths * NotASpectatorSport * LeftTruncatablePrime * TheDoctorAndTheLawyer * FourPointsTwoDistancesProof * MeetingRonGraham * NapkinRingVersusSphericalCap * TheFourPointsPuzzle * RadiusOfTheEarthPartTwo * GrepTimingAnomaly * TheRadiusOfTheEarth * ThisWorksToCureMyHiccoughs * PerhapsWeSavedOne * ThinkingAboutMastodon * DisappearingTrainsOnVirgin * TheIndependenceGame * OneOfMyFavouritePuzzles * ThinkingAboutRecursion * MemorisingTheTube * SpikeySpheres * SurprisinglyQuick * AnUnexpectedFraction * YouHaveToAdmireTheirOptimism * RepresentativesMatter * PythagorasByIncircle * APuzzleAboutPuzzles * HowNotToDoTwitter * Calculating52FactorialByHand * SmallThingsMightNotBeSoSmall * NotIfYouHurry * FactoringViaGraphThreeColouring * AnotherProofOfTheDoodleTheorem * WhenObviousIsNotObvious * GraphThreeColouring * TheDoodleTheorem * BeCarefulWhatYouSay * TheMutilatedChessboardRevisited * AMirrorCopied * TheOtherOtherRopeAroundTheEarth * PhotocopyAMirror * ThePointOfTheBanachTarskiTheorem * SieveOfEratosthenesInPython * FastPerrinTest * RussianPeasantMultiplication * FindingPerrinPseudoPrimes_Part2 * FindingPerrinPseudoPrimes_Part1 * TheUnwiseUpdate * MilesPerGallon * TrackingAnItemOnHackerNews * HackerNewsUserAges * PokingTheDustyCorners * ThereIsNoTimeForThis * PublicallySharingLinks * LearningTimesTables * GracefulDegradation * DiagrammingMathsTopics * OnTheRack * SquareRootByLongDivision * BeyondTheBoundary * FillInTheGaps * SoftwareChecklist * NASASpaceCrews * TheBirthdayParadox * TheTrapeziumConundrum * RevisitingTheAnt * TheAntAndTheRubberBand * IrrationalsExist * MultipleChoiceProbabilityPuzzle * RandomEratosthenes * WrappingUpSquareDissection * DissectingASquarePart2 * DissectingACircle * DissectingASquare * AnOddityInTennis * DecisionTreeForTennis * DecisionTreesInGames * AMatterOfConvention * DoYouNourishOrTarnish * BinarySearchReconsidered * TwoEqualsFour * TheLostPropertyOffice * TheForgivingUserInterface * SettingUpRSS * WithdrawingFromHackerNews ---- Additionally, some earlier writings: * RandomWritings. * ColinsBlog2010 * ColinsBlog2009 * ColinsBlog2008 * ColinsBlog2007 * ColinsBlogBefore2007 ******** [[[> This page has been _ TaggedAsMaths ]]] OK, so we're going to compute the radius of the Earth by watching the Sun coming down a building at sunrise. We did this earlier on the page LatitudeCorrection, but there's been some question about the answer, so let's do it "properly". Let's pick an arbitrary latitude, call it $\lambda$, and we'll assume that the Earth is a perfect sphere of radius $R$, and that the Sun's rays are parallel. In effect, the Sun is a point, and infinitely far away. That means that the line separating light from dark, the "Terminator" as it's known, is a Great Circle. We will ignore atmospheric effects. I know that if we actually take away all the air we'll die, but this is maths, not biology, so that's OK. [[[>30 You may need to think about that for a bit. ]]] We'll also assume that we're doing this at Equinox. That means that the North Pole and the South Pole are both on the Terminator. The result of this assumption is that we don't need to consider the tilt of the Earth's axis. If we hover high above the North Pole we would see the Earth spinning anti-clockwise, the North Pole lying on the Terminator, and every part of the Earth's surface spending half its time in light, and half in dark. That is what "Equinox" means, it comes from Medieval Latin /equinoxium,/ "equality of night (and day)." [[[>50 |>> ''' <img src="https://www.solipsys.co.uk/images/EarthFromAbove.png" width="100%" /> ---- Earth from above <<| ]]] OK, so much for the setup. Here we are, looking down in the Earth from above the North Pole, the Sun at the top of the image. We need to define some axes. To some extent this is arbitrary, but I'm going to take the centre of the Earth as my origin, the Sun at a very large /negative/ value of $z$, the North Pole at a /positive/ value of $y$, and $x$ goes off to the right of the image. We're also going to have a building at latitude $\lambda$ North, and its foot will trace out a circle as it goes around. That has been marked with a red circle on this diagram. We'll pick up the story at a point when the foot of our building is still in the dark. That means it is at some angle clockwise from the $x$-axis. We'll call that angle $\alpha$. It takes a little work, but we can now compute the $(x,y,z)$ coordinates of the foot of the building. If you're not familiar with this you can either take the time to check, or just take it all on faith. I hope at least some of you check ... The $y$ coordinatate depends only on the latitude, so that's $R\sin(\lambda)$. The foot of the building sweeps out a circle of radius $R\cos(\lambda)$, which we'll call $r$. So we have: * $z=r\sin(\alpha)$ * $x=r\cos(\alpha)$ So summarising, the foot of the building is located at: * $y=R\sin(\lambda)$ * $z=R\cos(\lambda)\sin(\alpha)$ * $x=R\cos(\lambda)\cos(\alpha)$ OK ... got that? Now we can immediately get the */top/* of the building, because that's in the same place, but further from the origin. So the three-space coordinates of the top of the building are: * $y=(R+h)\sin(\lambda)$ * $z=(R+h)\cos(\lambda)\sin(\alpha)$ * $x=(R+h)\cos(\lambda)\cos(\alpha)$ That's actually the one we care about, so we'll just use those coordinates - there should be no risk of confusion. [[[>50 |>> ''' <img src="https://www.solipsys.co.uk/images/EarthFromBehind.png" width="100%" /> ---- Earth from behind <<| ]]] So that's the setup ... what are we actually looking for? Let's look at the Earth along the $z$-axis, from the shadow. We see here the situation where the foot of the building has just arrived at the terminator, illuminated by the Sun from the other side of the Earth as we look at it from here ... this is when $\alpha=0$. So what do we want? We want, from this point of view, the top of the building to be on the edge. That means that the coordinates have to satisfy: * $x^2+y^2\;=\;R^2$ Gosh. So we want this: * $\left((R+h)\sin(\lambda)\right)^2\;+\;\left((R+h)\cos(\lambda)\cos(\alpha)\right)^2\;=\;R^2$ That simplifies a little: * $\sin(\lambda)^2\;+\;\cos(\lambda)^2\cos(\alpha)^2\;=\;\left(R/(R+h)\right)^2$ Now $\lambda$ is fixed - that's our latitude. How we proceed depends on whether we are looking to get the radius from the time, or the time from the radius. We also remember that $\alpha$ is small, and $h$ is small compared with $R$. This latter means that $\frac{R}{R+h}$ is more-or-less $\frac{R-h}{R}$ which is $1-\frac{h}{R}$. So let's write: * $c$ for $\cos(\lambda)$ * $s$ for $\sin(\lambda)$ Now we have: * $s^2\;+\;c^2\cos(\alpha)^2\;=\;\left(1-\frac{h}{R}\right)^2$ We approximate $\left(1-\frac{h}{R}\right)^2$ by $1-\frac{2h}{R}$ because $h$ is small, and remembering that when $\alpha$ is small, $\cos(\alpha)\approx{1-\frac{1}{2}\alpha^2}$, so $\cos(\alpha)^2$ comes out as $1-\alpha^2$ Now have: * $s^2\;+\;c^2(1-\alpha^2)\;=\;1-\frac{2h}{R}$ That's not as bad as it might have been. In fact this is the point where we observe that $c^2+s^2\;=\;1$. Expanding ... * $s^2\;+\;c^2(1-\alpha^2)\;=\;1-\frac{2h}{R}$ * $s^2\;+\;c^2\;-\;c^2\alpha^2\;=\;1-\frac{2h}{R}$ * $1\;-\;c^2\alpha^2\;=\;1-\frac{2h}{R}$ * $c^2\alpha^2\;=\;\frac{2h}{R}$ Gosh. So now we have the fundamental relationship we can do our sums. Before that, we note that there are 86400 seconds in a day, so it takes the Earth 86400 seconds to rotate $2\pi$ radians. An angle $\alpha$ is $\frac{\alpha}{2\pi}$ rotations, so corresponds to $\frac{\alpha}{2\pi}\times86400$ seconds. We also note that the Earth's circumference is 40 million metres, so its radius is about 6.366 million metres. We'll do the calculations for a latitude of 51.5 degrees, so we have $\cos(\lambda)\approx0.6225$. Now read on ... ---- ********> width="47%" !! Radius from time We start by solving for $R$: * $R\;=\;\frac{2h}{c^2\alpha^2}$ Let's suppose the building is 5 metres high and we time the sunlight descending as 28 seconds. What's the size of the Earth? We need to convert the time to $\alpha$: * $\alpha\;=\;t\times(2\pi)/86400$ So $\alpha=0.0020362$. Then we get $R$ to be 6.223756 million metres, which is pretty close. ******** width="5%" ******** width="47%" !! Time from radius We start by making $\alpha$ the subject of our equation: * $\alpha\;=\;\sqrt{\frac{2h}{c^2R}}$ Then the time for the Sun to descend the building is roughly: * $86400\times\frac{1}{2\pi}\sqrt{\frac{2h}{c^2R}}$ where $c^2$ is about 0.3875. So that's about 27.685 seconds. If the building is four times as high at 20 metres, then the time will be about twice as long, at about 55.37 seconds. ********< ---- So it turns out that my commenter was absolutely right, and the sums done on the page RadiusOfTheEarthPartTwo are wrong. The correction is not as simple as dividing by $\cos(\theta)$, there is more going on. Now the challenge is to compare the two methods and see where the other one goes wrong. 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